The MCS staff gathers around the table once again, this time offering their opinions on some of the questions facing the micro-budget community. Keep in mind these are opinions, and everyone in the scene is welcome–and encouraged–to offer their own thoughts on the MCS message boards. And now, the hard-hitting questions…
True or False: Horror will always be the dominant genre in the micro scene.
JASON SANTO: TRUE. I think the voyeuristic nature of no-budget moviemaking lends itself best to horror and that’s largely why I believe low budget horror has always been dominant. If you look back at the 60s and 70s, horror exploitation flicks were just as prevelant as the no-budget quickies we see today. I think the design of no-budget cinema fits well with horror because when you have no name talent doing the acting, you have a real sense of not knowing what will happen to characters in the story. That suspense is easier to build. And when you mix in amateur actresses dropping trou, the voyeur crowd gets a woody and opens their wallets. Hell, I believe that’s why a lot of no-budget horror is made - some moviemakers like to see no namers get naked, terrorized and gore drenched. And no, their isn’t anything wrong with that. It’s just the way it is.
JOHN OAK DALTON: TRUE. They are the easiest to make; as we’ve pointed out on the site before, all you need are some strippers, some kayro syrup, and somebody’s backyard to shoot in. Seriously, though, a lot of the filmmakers grew up on this genre and are looking to these to emulate. Though I do think it would be sensible for a micro-Western revival to start up; it would be even easier to produce oaters again, once a dominant genre in television and movies.
GARY LUMPP: TRUE. As long as males and teenagers are the dominant market for micros, horror will remain king in my opinion. Horror movies also tend to require less of the writer and the cast when it comes to a performance - it’s easier to fill a horror movie with stereotypes and screams than craft deep characters who have to emote. This isn’t an indictment of the micro horror scene - the same can be said of Hollywood blockbusters that are guilty of the same thing.
TIM SHRUM: TRUE. Next to adult films, horror films will always do well. I think it’s because of the cheap thrills that it can provide. Rent any horror flick these days and an audience member can get laughs, frights, gore, and a bit of skin. It’s fun entertainment and within safe confines.
HEIDI MARTINUZZI: TRUE. Most people who are into horror are geeks, and geeks are less likely to be playing football or going out on Saturday night than they are to be making homemade horror or genre flicks in their dormrooms or backyards. As these people get older, their passion sticks with them. It’s a strange thing how horror and other forms of geekdom are all related. Filmmaking geekdom and computer geekdom, for instance, are related, and you can see that in a site like Microcinemascene.
PETE BAUER: TRUE. It’s a proven formula tailor made for the limitations of microcinema. And horror fans appear to be the most forgiving audiences when it comes to acting and production value. I do hope, however, that the microcinema scene will make that next leap in the genre as far as story-telling technique. As Halloween made a paradigm shift in how to tell a horror story, I’m hopeful someone out there in the microcinema universe will help define the next great shift.
MIGUEL COYULA: TRUE. But I think a well written drama with (let’s be extreme) two people talking in a room is easier to make than a horror movie, production-wise. Of course it will require a good screenplay and good actors. I love psychological horror movies like The Shining, and even The Blair Witch Project where the horror is suggested through the creation of an atmosphere rather than explicit graphic usual stuff. But really a tongue in cheek gore fest really doesn’t do it for me. Frankly, that does not HORRORIZE me, which is what the genre is supposed to do. It’s another thing if we are talking about a horror comedy, but unfortunately the line between seriousness horror and comedy horror becomes too blurry in microcinema movies. One microcinema horror movie I like is Shockheaded, although it mixes other genres rather than just horror, it is intriguing and succeeds in creating an atmosphere.
PETER JOHN ROSS: FALSE. Comedy is gaining quickly, and if you count the short form, comedy already outweighs it. TRUE if we are solely referring to features…
JACK ORMAN: FALSE. I’m not so sure it is the dominant genre at this time. If you look at the top-rated films on the microcinema home page, true horror films are in the slim minority. While there may be a glut of low budget quickly made horror films that depend on blood, screams and teens to fill the two hours, the best filmmakers are already moving beyond that to a new plateau.
True or False: With the continuing advancements in technology, the scene will become so watered down that it will not be taken seriously.
MIGUEL COYULA: TRUE. You can’t buy talent with technology.
GARY LUMPP: TRUE. But it’s a “true” with reservations. I think that CG will help the product become better, but I’m afraid that the marketing improvements will make it easier for people to create professional looking packaging for amateur productions. Currently I think there’s a bit of a glut thanks to better, cheaper cameras and non-linear editing, but hopefully this will help the cream to rise to the top and the people with talent will help to keep the scene legitimate.
JASON SANTO: TRUE. This scene isn’t ever going to be “its own thing.” Whenever someone breaks out of this category, it will become an “ultra-independent” flick or something described as such.
PETER JOHN ROSS: TRUE, sadly it already is. Look at the downfall of short film sites from 2000 to current…
FilmFilm.com
RadicalZoo.com
alt.sho.com - Showtime channel’s Alternative Media Festival online, now long gone
Cinemanow.com (no longer shows shorts)
Screen47.com
Dearfilm.com
AlwaysI.com (sold to Hollywood.com and henceforth retired)
AntEye.com
Atom-Bomb.com
Zoomgo.com
Imtalented.com
NotFilms.com
Icast.com
Dearfilm.com
Studiocities.net
Pepper-View.com
and that’s just a few I can think of off the top of my head.
TIM SHRUM: FALSE with some reservations. Digital technology is such an awesome and amazing tool that we have that many before us never even dreamt of nor possessed. But with great tools comes great responsibility; it is so easy for us to forget that and we try to add as much eye candy as we can, leaving little room for the story. Now however, if one can understand that story comes first, then digital technology can only help to achieve greater story elements that were never possible before.
JOHN OAK DALTON: I think this is FALSE, because new media platforms actually level the playing field, creating more opportunities to compete at a more professional grade rather than at a less.
HEIDI MARTINUZZI: Hopefully FALSE, but I worry that this is true. It’s so easy for everyone to make a film now. Which is a great thing! If no one has access to the equipment, how can any new talent come around? There are, however, as a result, some terribly untalented people making film after film after film…I seriously hope that this is false.
PETE BAUER: FALSE. It’s hard to water down an arena where everyone’s starting budget hovers around $100 and the audience scope is limited to something slightly greater than family and friends. I do think that there will be more participants in microcinema, but that won’t translate into a watering down as it will a greater diversity of stories.
JACK ORMAN: FALSE. It is the message not the media. A strong film will stand on its own whether made with a 35mm Arri or a Fisher Price camcorder. The glut of cheaply-made poor quality movies will only make the best movies look that much better.
True or False: Self-distribution will become the norm, not the exception, for the most popular low budget flicks.
JOHN OAK DALTON: I hadn’t really thought about this before, but it may be TRUE, and that is a double-edged sword. Thanks to the Internet people can display and sell their work in a very accessible forum; but traditional distribution channels remain the most widely accepted measurement of success.
JACK ORMAN: TRUE. It is already happening to some extent and there are self-distributed films breaking into Blockbuster, Best Buy and other chain stores. It is a tough road to travel but will ultimately be more rewarding, both financially and personally, for moviemakers who can handle the business side of distribution. Promotion is an expensive aspect that is different from distribution…one could distribute a film that ultimately sold few copies because it lacked the proper promotion. Self-promotion can be financially inaccessible to the micro-budget filmmaker.
HEIDI MARTINUZZI: TRUE, but I think that for a film to be termed “successful” it will have to get some sort of distribution deal. Self-Distribution will be the norm for all the films that can’t get distribution, and (see rule #2) that may happen more and more as the amount of filmmakers increase…
TIM SHRUM: FALSE. As the saying goes he who has the most money rules the world, the same is true for distribution. The greater and larger the distributor the more people will take notice of your work. Because they have the money to hype you and your film.
Self-distribution has been around for decades. In the 50s and 60s filmmakers would go town to town with an old projector to show their film inside a tent. They would sell their films out of Famous Monsters and men’s magazines. They did whatever they could to get their film out there even if it meant being screwed by a shady distributor.
Today it is no different, we send our films to film festivals, sell them on the internet and out of Fangoria, hell, some of us have even tried flea markets. The bottom line is that to play in the big kid’s pool, you need to have a distributor, because it’s a lot of work for little to no money to do it the DIY route.
PETE BAUER: FALSE. The term “most popular” insinuates a larger than normal audience, which means someone will want to make money off of it. So, some structured, proven distribution channel would then enter the mix. Granted, I believe there will eventually be more avenues for self-distributed films to be available, but, in the end, putting it on a shelf is not enough. Someone has to buy it in order to it to become a long-term success.
GARY LUMPP: FALSE. I think that there will always be a market for the best of the best, even in the no-budget world. As long as something makes a profit it’ll be accessible, and with the low overhead (or no overhead) I’m betting that there will always be room for a small distributor with ties to a big video chain. However right now there are too many good movies out there that aren’t being seen, but that might have to do more with the genres they’re in (read: not horror).
JASON SANTO: FALSE. Self-distribution is an impossibly hard thing to do. Just selling movies over websites is incredibly unprofitable, even if it’s a free website and your movie was made for a dime. Factor in camera costs and a budget for a computer and the replication costs. Then the taxes you have to pay and yada yada yada… that’s all fine and dandy - you might recoup all of it if you have the right kind of marketing. But what you won’t get money for is the time you spend marketing, selling, replicating and sending stuff out. Leave that work to a distributor if you want to be a moviemaker.
Unless you have a great business mind, a terrific movie and an incredibly tenancious will to develop contracts with sales aganecies, self-distribution isn’t going to get anyone anywhere. You might develop a small fan base and have people patting you on the back (and that’s totally cool too), but financial success is almost a pie-in-the-sky notion. Hell, even with outside distribution financial success is elusive.
PETER JOHN ROSS: FALSE, again there will be MORE, but not really the “norm” as most people aspire to the 100 year old tradition of “screw-you-little-guy-Hollywood” style distribution.
MIGUEL COYULA: Self Distribution requires a big investment of money or time. If you are a truly No-Budget moviemaker, you must decide whether you want to make movies or dedicate your time to self distribute them. It also happens that some people have the talent to make movies and others to sell them.
True or False: There will never be another “Blair Witch Project” success story.
HEIDI MARTINUZZI: TRUE. I’ll explain. I think that ever since Blair Witch everyone goes ga-ga over every damn microcinema film that has even the semblance of a plot. Look at Primer, for example. A mediocre film with a decent plot that cost 7,000 dollars. Now it’s being distributed theatrically, and Shane Carruth is a real “genius.” Example number two, Tarnation by Jonathan Caouette. Dear God, he’s being hailed as a prodigy. Isn’t he in Newsweek, Variety, The Hollywood Reporter, and Inside the Actors Studio? Lecturing on Directing at Harvard? Okay, I’m exaggerating, but it’s just sickening, to be honest. I think there are Blair Witch situations happening all around us, to a lesser and greater degree, where people are making one film, and as long as it’s independent everyone in Hollywood goes nutso freako and declares them the next “big thing” for at least the next 15 minutes.
JASON SANTO: FALSE. Micro indies will continue to beat down the mainstream’s resistance to shot-on-video and lower budget fare. Movies like Open Water, Tarnation and even Capturing the Freidmans are all working in tandem with Reality Television in establishing the video image as “real life” - as the norm. I think we’re looking at a revolution that could be on par with the great 70s revolution headed up by all of those young kids coming out of Corman’s studio (Coppola, Scorscese, et all). Once more and more no-budget indie movies discover something important say while remaining entertaining, we’ll see another Blair Witch. Hell, we could see many of them.
TIM SHRUM: FALSE. Personally, I liked the format for Blair Witch and want to see more of those films, but as far as a film being just as successful, I really do think it can happen, but it all depends on luck and how good the film is, but more luck than anything.
PETER JOHN ROSS: FALSE, we already had one this year with Open Water…and more to come, I’m sure of it. As HDV starts to filtrate and with a 24p version of it en route, we can expect some more breakouts. I judge a high school film fest every year and the talent a 17 year old has combined with technology available, it will be more and more prolific and the bar will be raised for everyone.
JOHN OAK DALTON: FALSE. I think that the way it’s going to happen perhaps hasn’t even been thought of or invented yet.
GARY LUMPP: FALSE. It might take decades, but if Hollywood can make money off of something they’ll exploit it for everything it’s worth. And “Blair Witch” had as much to do with marketing as it did the actual flick, so I think with the right backing there’s always a chance.
PETE BAUER: FALSE. You mean Blair Witch was the creative apex of marketing and low-budget filmmaking? If that were true, we should all hand in our cameras and become low-cost out-sourced computer programmers. There are too many creative people out there for Blair Witch to be the end of it all.
MIGUEL COYULA: FALSE. It’s just a matter of coming up with a cheap, “high concept” clever movie. Though as Gary said it might take decades to create something that kicks in so strongly.
JACK ORMAN: FALSE. Never say never. It might even happen next year. If there is money to be made exploiting an indie movie, some film company will take it on - it’s a cheap gamble.
True or False: Within the next year, microbudget productions will be taken seriously in the “independent film” community.
JASON SANTO: I was thinking it was Red Cockroaches that was going to make the change, and there’s still a chance it could be, so I’m hanging onto TRUE. Again, I don’t believe Microcinema as a category will ever be taken very seriously, there’s just too much sludge for people to have to wade through. But I can see Microcinema-level projects breaking out into the mainstream, thus validating the existance of a no-budget realm. These movies will ascend to a different category that will separate shot-in-the-backyard camcorder opuses from well-though out, well written and well directed no-budget cinema (presumably still shot in backyards, no?).
TIM SHRUM: TRUE. It will take a few more years, but as the technology gets better, more and more people will become accepting of the formats that most of us shoot on and will come to no longer focus on the flaws, but on the story.
JOHN OAK DALTON: Despite the buzz surrounding Open Water and 28 Days Later, as two quasi-micro examples, I think the micro community still has a long way to go; so I have to say regrettably that this one is FALSE.
GARY LUMPP: FALSE. I think this has more to do with the image of the microbudget world than anything else. Too many people view it as being “amateur,” which is a shame. Hopefully more video cameras that offer a film-style look will help to give the impression that micros have as much to offer as independents, but a lot of that has to do with the talent involved. Plus, most “independent” films have million dollar budgets nowadays.
PETE BAUER: FALSE. There are a ton of micro-budget ideas out there than never reach their potential because the execution fails on some level, whether its the acting, lighting, sound, image quality, etc. It’s the nature of the beast. However, at some point, the technological gap will close and I believe more opportunities will arise, but not within the next year.
HEIDI MARTINUZZI: FALSE. Anyone who manages to get more than 100 grand for their film is probably bitter and jaded from all the ass-kissing they had to do to get the money, and will most likely shun anyone who makes a film, whether good or bad, that has a budget less than that. The bitterness and jadedness will eventually rub off onto those who made the microcinema films, and they will wonder why they wasted their time when no one takes them seriously. They, in turn, will shun microcinema made by others who haven’t experienced the harshness yet. It’s a vicious cycle.
MIGUEL COYULA: FALSE. The affordability of digital gear has fired up the microcinema production. Everybody is a filmmaker nowadays.
PETER JOHN ROSS: EEEHHHHHH MAYBE. I think the term “Microcinema” will be taken more seriously and its definition entered into the lexicon. Can you really call both a $100 mini DV feature and Pulp Fiction “Independent film”? No. “Microcinema” is the new buzz word of tomorrow and it will begin to be the definition of our no- to low-budget, home-PC world of moviemaking.
JACK ORMAN: FALSE. Micro-budget films, even the very best ones, are not up to the production values of a low budget indie film. There are some excellent micro-budget movies available but if you compare them to even a cheap indie film, they come up short on some level, as Pete said. An original movie made for the Sci-Fi Channel will have a $750,000 budget which allows a lot of value to be put up on the screen - even a $10,000 micro-budget film is not able to match that.
True or False: Something other than zombies, vampires and serial killers will become popular in micro horror films.
MIGUEL COYULA: TRUE. It is an interesting subject. Why trying to emulate Hollywood by copying zombie, vampires, shootouts between cool guys wearing sunglasses indoors, etc? It’s fine to make movies with those elements, but at least we should try to add something to the genre that Hollywood can’t offer, and I don’t mean extra gore or sex. I mean to introduce new concepts, themes or structures. We should take advantage of since we are all MicroCinema moviemakers and have no Hollywood suits watching over our shoulders. We are never going to emulate Hollywood in the technical side, no matter how good FX we can do.
Even if your dream is to be assimilated by Hollywood, the industry won’t be interested, unless you have a fresh approach to the genre. Emulating Tarantino or other success stories is not the way. They worked precisely because they were unique at the time they came out. You’ve got to bring your own sensibility instead of thinking: I’m going to do this and that, because that’ll be cool. Talk about something that truly speaks to you. Ask yourself a question: If there will be no audience left, will you still make a movie? What would that film be like? Then do it. If it is sincere to you it will always speak to a group of people. Steven Spielberg and David Lynch are both doing the films they love. Trouble is that unlike Lynch, Spielberg loves what most people love.
TIM SHRUM: TRUE. I expect to see more ghost, Japanese-horror rip offs and more, “faster zombie” films. But I would like to see someone pull off an amazing sci-film. Obviously it can be done, especially if you see the work that is possible on a Star Wars fan film. Now if they can stop wasting their time on fan films and use that same energy and knowledge to make a(n original) sci-film, that would be sweet.
GARY LUMPP: TRUE. With Hollywood tapping into the Japanese horror market, I think there’s a whole new world that can be explored (and exploited) on the micro level. Look for more “curse” and haunted house flicks in the near future.
HEIDI MARTINUZZI: TRUE. I see amateur microcinema porn becoming really big. Oh wait, that’s kind of the same as regular porn. Can I change my answer? No. Zombies, Vampires, and Serial Killers will always be the most common characters in genre microcinema films, but I expect to see a lot of amateur Kung Fu being inserted into these plots as time goes on.
JASON SANTO: TRUE. Horror fans’ palettes are becoming more and more diversified as Asian cinema grows in popularity. And since the Microcinema horror front is largely driven by fans who become moviemakers, you’ll see the slashers, zombies and what have you give way to ghost stories and curse type fare.
PETER JOHN ROSS: TRUE…although I’m thinking the trend will be aliens and CGI as it becomes more accessible and render times lessen.
JOHN OAK DALTON: FALSE, unless desktop CGI programs get sophisticated enough to create satisfactory FX for sci-fi to finally get a real toehold.
PETE BAUER: FALSE. Proven formulas never go away. Zombies, Vampires and Serial Killers can all be lumped into the term “Boogy Man” and I’m certain Boogy Man stories have been alive and well since mans first campfire.
JACK ORMAN: FALSE. It is much easier for a beginning filmmaker to imitate than create.
True or False: Someone will create a microbudget film that is so controversial it receives national attention.
PETE BAUER: TRUE. With video cameras so entrenched in our society, someone will make something so disturbing that it will make a splash. I don’t think a fictional microbudget film would receive national attention, but a low-budget, disturbing documentary would. For example, a Columbine-esque video shot by the killers or something of that nature. Someone will put a video camera in a place or situation no one would ever imagine and create a controversial film.
PETER JOHN ROSS: TRUE, although it might not be controversy, but simply quality and story that brings it to the forefront.
JACK ORMAN: TRUE. It is inevitable that someone will try to push the envelope and all it takes is a bit of hype for it to get some national press–especially if some group or person tries to suppress or censor it.
HEIDI MARTINUZZI: TRUE. It’s just a matter of time. If low budget indies can get attention after beng ignored for years, then certainly microcinema, especially since the number of microcinema films is increasing exponentially by the power of a trillion every millisecond, will be given the attention they deserve. Someone will do something so shockingly horrible, probably illegal or stupid, that yes, it will receive national acclaim. We are just not able to think of that something, because if we could, we’d probably film it and get some national acclaim for ourselves.
JASON SANTO: TRUE. It’s only a matter of time before a Reality TV gimmick gets to big for the small screen and garners big screen attention for recording the truly horrific. I expect to see a big retreat from the Reality TV bandwagon when this happens. Perhaps someone will make Series 7 for real. Who knows… but I can see it coming.
TIM SHRUM: FALSE. There are tons of filmmakers out there who have done things that have raised the bar since the days of I Spit in Your Grave and Last House on the Left such as some of Sub Rosa Extreme’s films. The only time it got mentioned in the international media is when Wicked Pixel were filming a movie and forgot that they had left some fake body parts in a dumpster which were believed to be real when some unfortunate person discovered them, it then made CNN news. So even after that, nothing. It all goes back to style and distribution. The person with the most money is the loudest and people will only take notice if the distributor becomes the loudest for those films.
JOHN OAK DALTON: FALSE, because there are so many shocking things out there already, like stuff from Eric Stanze, Scooter McRae, and Andy Copp, that haven’t made a ripple outside the micro community. The only way I think it could happen would be if, God forbid, somebody taped some idiotic stuff or tried for mock-reality scares that lead to bodily injury.
GARY LUMPP: FALSE. As John mentioned there’s already been a case where a woman was abducted by her friends under the guise of making a movie, but the actual movie itself didn’t get the attention it was the action of the filmmakers. This is an area though where I think more producers can take chances - if you’re not catering to the general public, why not push the boundaries?
True or False: Someone from the microbudget community will break out in the big budget Hollywood scene in 2005.
JOHN OAK DALTON: Wouldn’t it be nice if this would be TRUE; my short list includes Miguel Coyula and Jason Santo, and I’m not just saying that because we work on this site together. Other potential breakouts include Brett Piper, Jay Woelfel, Brian Clement, Debbie Rochon, the Linn Brothers; if you project out five years I’d include Steven Judd, Tyler Wilson, Jay Bauman. If I answered this question tomorrow I might come up with a few others.
TIM SHRUM: TRUE: I can see it happening, however not in 2005.
PETE BAUER: TRUE. It’s just a matter of time. Microcinema is the training ground for the next great writer, director, producer or star. It’ll happen, no doubt.
GARY LUMPP: TRUE. However, I think it’s more likely to be a writer or actor or producer than a director. I hope I’m wrong, but Hollywood seems more enamored with music video and commercial directors instead of investing in young talent. People working behind the scenes will have a better chance, and I think someone who has dabbled in the scene who’s in the right place at the right time and - most importantly - knows the right people is a phone call away from making it big. At least that’s the dream.
PETER JOHN ROSS: TRUE. God help me I hope it’s me… I’ve got two feature films shooting before June 1st of 2005, so I’ve doubled my chances. Horrors of War is being represented at AFM next week, so I’m hedging my bets now…. http://horrorsofwar.sonnyboo.com. I have hope for everyone else too, but I pray I never make another short as long as I live….
JASON SANTO: FALSE. 2005 is too soon. I think it could happen, and there are plenty of moviemakers at this level that could burst from our scene and onto a larger one, but I’m not sure it’s quite there yet. I do wonder what Red Cockroaches chances are in 2005, and judging from what I’ve seen from Chris Sharpe’s Sex Machine, there’s another possibility. And the Bluebox Limited crew too. Yeah, it’ll happen, but 2005 is just so soon. Here’s hoping I’m wrong.
MIGUEL COYULA: I think it is possible, but it is more a stroke of luck. In my case, I make the movies I really want to make without any concession to an audience or a market. I personally think my movies won’t ever be a part of Hollywood because I’m just not playing that game. I don’t even know how to play it. Very unlikely, so I hardly even consider the idea. On the other hand, Tyler Wilson definitely has a very strong wrist in directing for such a young filmmaker. After seeing Abomination I can imagine him in the future making great films about social and political issues. Jason Santo is getting up there slowly, he has a great talent for marketing.
JACK ORMAN: We all would like for it to happen, but whether it occurs in 2005 or later is not something we can really foretell especially since we probably do not know what contacts, projects and ideas our friends may be working on behind the scenes. But it is more likely that they will actually break into low-budget Hollywood because no studio is going to entrust an unproven moviemaker with a big budget.
HEIDI MARTINUZZI: FALSE. But in 2008 Chris Seaver will break out in Hollywood, and Jason Santo will have a heart attack. It will happen!